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Published - Wednesday, October 01, 2008

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Viroqua doesn’t plan to add to rec committee

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The Viroqua City Council's Park and Recreation Committee has decided to not to add more committee members and not to pick up the tab for the Viroqua Middle School athletic programs being cut next year.

The committee met Wednesday, Sept. 24, and several committee members and Mayor Larry Fanta said the committee structure should be left alone.

"I would be totally against adding more committee members," Fanta said. "These meetings are totally open to the public and if anyone has any input they are able to come to the meetings. The people sitting right here are already elected by the people. I think anytime you add input from the outside you muddy the waters."

Alderman Gary Krause said he agreed with Fanta.

"Anyone who has any input can do the research and come here and present it," Krause said. "We would be fools not to listen."

The committee had been presented with a proposal to add five citizen members to the committee. Alderman Terry Noble said he had no problem with the current structure of the committee, but had asked for the discussion to consider more input.

"I felt five more voices would be good just because there are so many programs and we don't have kids in all of those programs and it might be good to allow input from parents in those programs," Noble said.

Fanta and Krause said the input comes from the park and recreation director, who is involved in all the programs.

"I see no reason to change just because one or two people are unhappy," Fanta said.

"Without the other voices you are filtering everything we hear through one person," Noble said. "Everything we know comes from one person."

"You don't trust me?" park and recreation director Dan "Boone" Stalsberg said. "I have to know what is happening with all the programs."

Noble said he did trust Stalsberg, but said he did not have the ability to know everything about every program.

"And you can say the meetings are open, but how many people are here?" Noble said. "People are busy and if they are not on the committee they just aren't going to come here."

"If they aren't coming and raising a concern they must be happy," Fanta said.

Committee chairman Roger Hatlem said there are many calls he and Stalsberg get that are resolved and never get to the committee level.

Alderman John Bjerke said he agreed that the committee could use more input, but saw no need to change the committee structure.

"I think we would lose some control with a commission," Bjerke said. "We don't want that."

"I think the message we should send people who are interested is to come and talk to us," city administrator Jeff Gohlke said. "Let us know how we are doing."

In other action, to committee:

n Decided not to help fund a traveling middle school softball and baseball program. Stalsberg and former Viroqua High School athletic director Pete Swanson said the Viroqua School District will be cutting the programs in the upcoming year and would like to have some city help to replace the programs.

Swanson said there are about 52 children currently involved in the programs and if they are to continue they will have to be privately funded. Stalsberg said the school district spends about $8,200 to run the program with $3,200 going to coaches and the rest to transportation.

Swanson said they have already received about $1,000 in donations and would like to see the city help with some of the cost. Stallsberg said the school district offered to let the jerseys go with the program and each participant would be required to pay a $30 participation fee.

Gohlke said one possible approach might be to offer matching funds for the amount of money raised through fundraising. Alderman Gail Frie said he was concerned that once the city takes on a school program there would more programs cut with the expectation that the city will take them on.

"I would like to see these programs continue, but I am not sure it should be our responsibility," Hatlem said. "Next year we will have basketball and wrestling and we just can't afford it."

"We certainly aren't in any better shape financially (than the school)," Krause said.

Noble said he didn't see how we can subsidize one sport and then decide next year not to subsidize another.

"We may have to force these to go to the private clubs," Noble said. "If there is a will, there is a way, but we are in no position to take them on."

n Approved a tentative budget for the park and recreation department. The budget is down by about $25,000 or a 10.8 percent decrease from last year. The overall expenditures return to the 2007 level at around $212,000.

The budget includes money for increasing a park employee from half-time to full-time and reduces the capital expenditures. Last year's budget included $45,000 for new bathrooms in Eckhart Park. The bathrooms were tentatively approved last year, but the money was later used to repair flood damage to the ball fields at the Park Bowl.

Alderman Jeff Clifton asked if FEMA money received by the city covered those expenses. City Clerk John Severson said the FEMA money had covered a portion of the repairs, but not all. Severson estimated the repairs to cost about $90,000.

"The money from FEMA was for bare bones repairs and we don't have bare bones ball fields," assistant city administrator Matt Giese said.

The committee approved a proposal to move the boards for the hockey rink to the same area as the recreational skating area this winter. The boards will be set up on one end of the gravel parking lot instead of on the basketball court like last year.
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Move On wrote on Oct 11, 2008 7:46 AM:

" As far as I know, the school decided to eliminate middle school softball and baseball. I don't believe they said we are going to eliminate softball and baseball and the city will have to take it over. Going to the city council and asking them to help was a way of finding a solution, not pushing them on the city. Maybe, if all the energy of blaming the school, council members, and other individuals the problem would have already been solved. "

About certain council members. wrote on Oct 3, 2008 8:46 AM:

" I didn't know who the first comment was about. Terry, if you post and own it, I'm OK with that. I think others on the council also have kids, like Jeff Clifton. However, I don't think anybody was taking a shot at your kids. That would be a low blow. The comment was a false assumption, but aimed at a council member, not their children. For example, the park and rec has done a lot to develop football and baseball. Doesn't the rec director's kids participate in these programs? One could say the only reason the dugouts were added at the Park Bowl were because the Park and Rec director is preoccupied with that. The same goes with the skate park, which, in my opinion, would not have been built without the strong support of Mr. Noble and Mr. Clifton. The thing is, people aren't taking shots at kids, but rather the interests of the parents. (Which are obviously driven by the interests of their kids to some extent.) That is fair game since the parents are prominent public figures at least in the fishbowl of Viroqua. With that said, I appreciate the diversity of opinions created, perhaps with even a little tension, between the rec director and some of the members on the council. That's Because everybody is on their toes and everybody is supporting what they believe is important. And that is how things get done. I think when you look at the addition of the skate park in the city, that's a huge amenity. I think when you look at the new dugouts at the Park Bowl, that facility is much improved. When you add in the fact that the community/school outdoor sports facility is coming along so well, I think Viroqua is really improving itself as a community. If that takes people supporting the interests of their children, which is where I believe this all comes from, then the right things are getting done for the right reasons. Even if things at time seem heated and contentious. Sometimes it takes that atmosphere to create the energy to get things done. On all fronts, the end result are improved recreational facilities in the city. And, no, the city can't take over school athletic programs. I do agree whith the situation with the pool, because almost every city operates a pool (maybe every city our size in the state) and the city is getting a free ride on this. However, I think if the school can't afford to pay for these programs, they will have to be club programs. The Viroqua hockey association and the Viroqua wrestling club have both been successful. "

Terry Noble wrote on Oct 2, 2008 2:02 PM:

" The comments by Truth from 8:34 am are absolutely correct the Park & Rec Dept. cannot cater to every sport therefore Park & Rec committee members do have to pick and choose between such things as the warming house, the skatepark, various summer sports programs, new playground equipment, blacktopping parking lots, new bathrooms at Eckhart Park, replacing mowers and such. And Truths question of What makes one more important than the other? is also right on the mark. That is a tough decision every time. But I ran for office because I wanted to be a part of making those tough decisions because I do care about the direction of the city and the Park & Rec Department. Truth criticized the committees decision to support the warming house and skatepark but not the middle school baseball and softball programs. I have no problem with that. I just wanted to set the record straight about my kids. I felt that comment was a low blow. "

the truth is out there wrote on Oct 2, 2008 8:34 AM:

" It is nice to see a council member actually read these comments and put there opinion back. But the point is the city does subsidize programs like the warming house, & the skate park. I know these are not traditional sports the the schools do not offer but there are also many other non traditional sports as well. what makes one more important than the other. The park and rec department cannot cater to every sport. And the School is mismanaged even more than the city. "

About truth wrote on Oct 1, 2008 10:24 PM:

" As a city resident, I'm just glad to see a diversity of city activities. My kid plays baseball in the summer and is in the wrestling club. He's not the most athletic and I don't know what the future holds. He doesn't skatebord (thank God, cause none of them wear helmets.) I'm impressed with the Park Bowl and I think that the skate park is a nice addition to the city (No, I haven't lived here all my life.) I will say that school sports can't be shoved on the city. However, the situation with the Bigley Pool is different. The city should look in its budget and find a way to help pay for its operation. Why? Because the city did away with closing the municipal pool when the Bigley Pool opened. Every city Viroqua's size offers some type of pool option... If you don't know of one, please write. I'm saying Viroqua as a city got a pass on the pool, and that's wrong. To see the Bigley close because of no city support is a dark mark on the city as much as anybody else. I do appreciate your candid comments, Terry. "

To Truth wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:41 PM:

" The "certain council member" you appear to be talking about is me, Terry Noble, since I fought for both the skatepark and the re-opening of the warming house. Your "guess" about my kids is wrong. I have a son in baseball and a daughter in softball, the two sports that were cut by the middle school. Although it will be more expensive for me personally, I voted against taking over those two middle school programs because (as I said in the article above) I didn't feel it was fair to take over those two programs unless we intended to take over all the middle school programs, including wrestling and boys & girls basketball, when they are cut over the next couple of years. Although you were wrong about my kids, "Truth", you were right about your last point. The school should keep their middle school sports programs going and not try to push them onto the city. "

the truth is out there wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:23 PM:

" So the city has the money to keep the warming house open and to build a skate park, but no way can they help keep baseball going. I guess a certain council members kids must not play baseball? Remember the election for Mayor, as I see it it was a mandate to keep our traditions going, you don't have to always grease the squeaky wheel! Oh and I agree the school should keep the program going. Cut one teacher and fund all the programs! "


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