To: It's a farm... again wrote on Jul 7, 2007 12:42 PM:
" Huh? "
It's a farm... again wrote on Jul 4, 2007 1:38 PM:
" Everyone has a right to have there say, that's what make us FREE, if you look at what I wrote, THEY are following the law. I never said I was for or against but do understand it is a farm. In the end I support there choice of whatever they do as long as they follow the law. "
To Weekend City Slickers wrote on Jul 2, 2007 12:08 PM:
" I think we found the missing weekend city slickers... they would be those that think like the posting on 7/2/07 that says that Wal-Mart has been of the best things to happen to Viroqua. Convenient, somewhat; provided needed jobs, yes, a few very low-paying jobs; all at the cost of gradually making us into a suburb. Then you can throw in the dollar stores that are beginning to be on every block, and Walgreens, etc. How sad that there are those that think that the only two choices are city living with a string of chain stores, or allowing all types of corporate agriculture that is going to run the water quality, air quality, and quality of life here in our community. When those of us that are saying allowing corporate farms of this size will ruin this county are proven right, the damage will be done, and there will be no turning back. "
Names wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:41 AM:
" If you people really live in this area put your names in so we can see that it is not somebody from Viroqua or someplace other than the neighbors of this Farm. "
WalMArt wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:39 AM:
" has been one of the best things to happen to Viroqua not a fair comparison. "
Factory Farms wrote on Jul 1, 2007 1:00 PM:
" Let's define a factory farm. Example: dairy farm that milks 100 cows, raises all its young stock which could amount to 100 heifers and 100 bulls/steers plus dry cows. This could equal over 300 head of cattle at any one tme. This farmer hires 2 people full time and some seasonal help when he needs to chop hay, chop silage, bale hay, plant corn etc. etc. Is he a factory farm because he is not doing this all himself? From what I gather from the opposition, the ideal farmer would have a few cows, a few pigs, a few chickens, a few goats etc. A few of everything and not many of anything. The ideal farmer would take care of his own family and live off the farm. My question is this. When does a dairy become a factory farm? Has the hog farm been mislabeled as a factory farm? My understanding is that it will be family owned and operated. I also understand that it is not big enough to support a family if it was to be their sole operation. Therefore, is it a factory farm? Is the dairy a factory farm? Can we feed the world by being an "ideal farmer?" With the urban sprawl, eating up farmland, how will be feed everyone if we don't adapt to the circumstances? "
WEEKEND CITY SLICKERS? wrote on Jun 30, 2007 9:07 AM:
" Give me a break!! There may be weekend city slickers complaining, I don't know because I haven't met any, I do know the people I hear complaining are long-time residents of Retreat and Vernon County, many, many of them owners and workers of family farms. Just because we don't all own farms doesn't mean we don't have a right to support the family farm, decent water, air and property values. Don't forget it takes everone to make a community, there are people of all walks of life living here, paying taxes and contributing in every way possible. Should we all move away? Factory workers, truck drivers, county workers, teachers, medical workers, highway workers, the list goes on and on. I don't think that makes us city slickers. Should we all move away to the city? No, we are a part of this community and want to be good stewards to leave something worthwhile for future generations. Read the documented history of factory farms -- they do not contribute to a decent future for any area they are in and they are driving the family farms out of business. Think about the WalMarts and what has happened to the small stores. Same deal. "
To "It's a Farm" wrote on Jun 30, 2007 8:25 AM:
" Yeah, we all eat. Some of us also get some of our electric power from a nuclear power plant. That doesn't mean that there aren't strict guidelines and safeguards as to how that power plant operates and we sure don't want to be directly exposed to it. One of the very reasons that some of us are against this is because of the very attitude that you possess, and what could very easily be disastrous results from this attitude. It says very clearly that you think you have the right to do whatever you want no matter who it hurts or to what extent it hurts them. You are a very clear example as to why there should be limits to protect the rest of us from people that think like you do. "
It's a farm! wrote on Jun 29, 2007 11:09 AM:
" Thats what farms do, cows, hogs whatever. They are following the law. Week-end city slickers get over it. Like you don't eat. We want food but not on our land or I mean my neighbors land. They should use the land like I want them to. What a JOKE. "
To: To Comment Only wrote on Jun 29, 2007 10:31 AM:
" I don't think that the town board was in a hurry. They have not legal reason not to sign it. I think that it is just part of the process of the overall project. The town board meets once a month and if it wasn't presented in June, then it would be presented in July. The board would have to have a good reason NOT to sign it under the circumstances. Town of Sterling does not have a building ordinance, so they couldn't enforce something that doesn't exist. Therefore, legally they couldn't even fine them $50 for not having one. It is a mute point. The Parr's don't technically need one, but if they didn't get one, then they would be condemned for that. It is a no win situation for them. "
NRCS---Can they stop this operation?---Let us hope so wrote on Jun 29, 2007 8:44 AM:
" This is a paragraph from Tim Hundt's June 28th "Building Permit for Hog Farm Approved"
article.
"With the building permit approved, Bonnie Parr said on Tuesday morning that the couple is "just about ready" to submit paperwork for the only other two hurdles it must cross to run the facility — the Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS) 313 standards permit and the NRCS 590 nutrient management plan regulation permit" "
RK wrote on Jun 29, 2007 8:15 AM:
" If this is how the Parr's chose to make a living, good for them. Maybe it'll prevent more precious farm land from being sold to build new houses everywhere. Farms are part of living in the country, get used to it. "
Local control wrote on Jun 29, 2007 7:02 AM:
" Why keep on the county board, this should be local control. The towns and cities and villages need to enact ordinances to keep the areas the way the people who vote for them want it. "
To: comment only wrote on Jun 29, 2007 6:24 AM:
" If the Parrs don't need a building permit, then why was the Sterling town board in such a rush to give them one? The structure ISN'T EVEN BUILT YET, so what's their hurry, just to "get it on the tax rolls"? "
Moot for Parrs, but the future can be changed by county board. wrote on Jun 28, 2007 10:27 PM:
" I would agree it was a moot point, because the town of Sterling had nothing on the books that could stop it if they wanted to. Passing the building permit just put the building on the tax rolls, but procedurally, it was a big deal, because the Parrs can show their building permit in court as progress toward their project, which basically makes it unstoppable by moratorium or injunction, unless the county wanted to risk some sort of legal penalty if it was found to be impeding the Parrs rights. As for any following hog farm planned, any of the eight that have been mentioned at the Sterling Meeting, they don't have to make plans public until they bring in a building permit request. They can submit the other applications later. The thing is, now that there is precedent and the county is getting one, and there is nothing on the books to stop others, all that a prospective hog farmer need do is show progress on constructing a facility, they can do this by showing a town board building plans and asking for a building permit -- which basically just puts the property on the tax rolls. But in court, it also shows progress toward the building, so an injunction can't stop it. That's why the Parr project is too far along to stop and a moratorium is needed immediately. The county board could implement a moratorium. It's the only entity that can act to give itself time to study geology and topography of the county to see if other restrictions are needed. By the way, the Parrs acted very responsibly about their request and did everything above the board. Yet their idea went from just a rumor to being unstoppable in two months. "
comment only wrote on Jun 28, 2007 4:38 PM:
" The only fact that the Broadcaster left out is that the approval of that permit is a mute point! The Town of Sterling has no legal ordinance to require a permit be obtained. People can and do build without getting a permit. The permit goes directly to the assessor for tax purposes only!! "
no name wrote on Jun 28, 2007 4:33 PM:
" The only fact the Broadcaster left OUT of this article is that the approval of a building permit for the Parrs is a mute point. They can build whatever they want without a Town of Sterling Permit. Sterling does NOT have any legal ordinance to require a permit to build and the approved permit goes only to the assessor. I wish everyone would stop trying to pass on the blame. "
To To come on wrote on Jun 28, 2007 12:27 PM:
" Who cares i love money dont you? The only people who say money is evil is the people who dont have any!!! "
Tourism wrote on Jun 28, 2007 11:29 AM:
" I heard about the concern of all the tourism dollars being spent in Vernon County and how this hog barn will diminish it. First of all, I think everyone has valid arguments on this issue. The link I am missing is this. Where does the tourism dollars support the farmer. I can see where the farmer benefits the tourist by providing a scenic agricultural area to visit and therefore the tourists spend their money in the surrounding towns, but where does the farmer directly benefit from tourism dollars? "
Paula Blackmore wrote on Jun 28, 2007 11:00 AM:
" Obviously, these people who approved this permit have not driven through Iowa's Hog Country, what a shame! As a former resident of Vernon Country this is very disturbing as I am planning to return to my childhood hometown in the near future. I will certainly be doing my shopping and everything else in Monroe or other Counties far away from the stench it will produce. Also County Supervisor Maynard Cox definately has a Conflict of Interest. "
TO wrote on Jun 28, 2007 10:47 AM:
" DON'T SPEAK FOR ME!! I oppose this mess as do most of my neighbors and, hopefully, much of the rest of Vernon County. How dare you say WE don't want zoning, it's the only reasonable way to deal with these issues and protect this beautiful area, including too much other building. You say we want it this way so we can build our little cabins and live the quiet life. Those of us fighting this are not cabin dwellers, we live in homes that have been here for decades. Get some facts. Yes, there are many newer dwellings all over Vernon County but wasn't it farmers who sold their land to developers or individuals who wanted to build? I believe they pay some pretty hefty property taxes as well. Of course that doesn't matter because those of us within this area will have land and property values decrease and hopefully we can have hearings to drop our taxes accordingly. I hope you are fortunate enough to get a couple factory barns plunked next to you. "
To: Come on wrote on Jun 28, 2007 9:53 AM:
" If this operation is allowed, you will definitely get your wish! No one will want to come within miles of this farm. Too bad for all the long term farmers and residents whose properties border the Parrs'. I'm sure of the larger farmers in the area can't wait to get their stinky, unethical hands on all of the adjoining properties. This is all about money, nothing more and nothing less. "
Come on wrote on Jun 28, 2007 7:04 AM:
" This is kind of funny. All these people that cry about the hog farm are the same ones that did not want zoning so they could throw little cabins or homes up on 2 acres and live the quite life. Well here we go. Also if a few hog farms keep all these people from moving in to this area I might build a couple! "
Re: The Beginning wrote on Jun 27, 2007 2:23 PM:
" Who are you quoting in your last sentences? "
The Beginning of the End of our Quality of Life in Vernon County wrote on Jun 27, 2007 1:50 PM:
" It is glaringly obvious that the health and welfare of Vernon Country residents hold no value to those who made the decision to allow this potential disaster in. It is apparent once again that the effort made by those to get involved to state their many concerns was not taken seriously. We were told that we have no rights, no rights to protect our health, no rights not to have our property values plummet, no right to have our windows open in our own homes without the obnoxious smell making us ill and saturating everything that we own. We were told that it doesn't matter if we poured our life blood in to the property that adjoins this proposed site, or how many years we've lived here. It also was very clear, that although I'm sure they didn't want the inform. out as quickly as it came out, that this is just the first of several other intended operations. We were told , "We are going to do whatever we want to do and you can't stop us." What a sad commentary on where this county is headed and how this county is run. "
Let's not forget ! wrote on Jun 27, 2007 12:47 PM:
" In considering County Supervisor Maynard Cox's remarks, that are so in favor of the hog factory, let us not forget, his son works for Jeff and Bonnie Parr... "